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		<title>By: kevintel</title>
		<link>http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/2007/07/12/open-source-and-winding-up-tadhg/comment-page-1/#comment-1603</link>
		<dc:creator>kevintel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Barry:
Somehow, in all of this, people seem to have missed my endorsement of &lt;em&gt;good&lt;/em&gt; Open Source software. In a nutshell, my dig is at doggedly supporting lower quality software purely based on a licence which in many situations makes no bearing on whether or not the software does what you need it to, which was my original point; use the tool which most fits your needs, not your ideology. If the tool does what you need it to, then that, surely, is what matters?

The softwares you mention are by and large good, and this is why I use them. Not because of the licence, but because they do what I want. The jury&#039;s still out on NeoOffice, and I&#039;m very close to ditching it and putting down the readies for a licence for MS Office for Mac. It&#039;s good, but not great.

Tadhg has posted a spirited response on his site to my comments, and I&#039;ll have to respond here and there. He didn&#039;t like the hammer/software tool analogy, I believe :-)&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1603&#039;,&#039;kevintel&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1603&#039;,&#039;kevintel&#039;,&#039;@ Barry:\r\nSomehow, in all of this, people seem to have missed my endorsement of &lt;em&gt;good&lt;\/em&gt; Open Source software. In a nutshell, my dig is at doggedly supporting lower quality software purely based on a licence which in many situations makes no bearing on whether or not the software does what you need it to, which was my original point; use the tool which most fits your needs, not your ideology. If the tool does what you need it to, then that, surely, is what matters?\r\n\r\nThe softwares you mention are by and large good, and this is why I use them. Not because of the licence, but because they do what I want. The jury\&#039;s still out on NeoOffice, and I\&#039;m very close to ditching it and putting down the readies for a licence for MS Office for Mac. It\&#039;s good, but not great.\r\n\r\nTadhg has posted a spirited response on his site to my comments, and I\&#039;ll have to respond here and there. He didn\&#039;t like the hammer\/software tool analogy, I believe :-)&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Barry:<br />
Somehow, in all of this, people seem to have missed my endorsement of <em>good</em> Open Source software. In a nutshell, my dig is at doggedly supporting lower quality software purely based on a licence which in many situations makes no bearing on whether or not the software does what you need it to, which was my original point; use the tool which most fits your needs, not your ideology. If the tool does what you need it to, then that, surely, is what matters?</p>
<p>The softwares you mention are by and large good, and this is why I use them. Not because of the licence, but because they do what I want. The jury&#8217;s still out on NeoOffice, and I&#8217;m very close to ditching it and putting down the readies for a licence for MS Office for Mac. It&#8217;s good, but not great.</p>
<p>Tadhg has posted a spirited response on his site to my comments, and I&#8217;ll have to respond here and there. He didn&#8217;t like the hammer/software tool analogy, I believe <img src='http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1603','kevintel'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1603','kevintel','@ Barry:\r\nSomehow, in all of this, people seem to have missed my endorsement of &lt;em&gt;good&lt;\/em&gt; Open Source software. In a nutshell, my dig is at doggedly supporting lower quality software purely based on a licence which in many situations makes no bearing on whether or not the software does what you need it to, which was my original point; use the tool which most fits your needs, not your ideology. If the tool does what you need it to, then that, surely, is what matters?\r\n\r\nThe softwares you mention are by and large good, and this is why I use them. Not because of the licence, but because they do what I want. The jury\'s still out on NeoOffice, and I\'m very close to ditching it and putting down the readies for a licence for MS Office for Mac. It\'s good, but not great.\r\n\r\nTadhg has posted a spirited response on his site to my comments, and I\'ll have to respond here and there. He didn\'t like the hammer\/software tool analogy, I believe :-)'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: barry</title>
		<link>http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/2007/07/12/open-source-and-winding-up-tadhg/comment-page-1/#comment-1601</link>
		<dc:creator>barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny, if long winded, and slightly hypocritical given just how much open source software you use... 

NeoOffice, VLC, Azureus... to name a few... 

Oh, and lets not forget what you use to write THIS BLOG... wordpress.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1601&#039;,&#039;barry&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1601&#039;,&#039;barry&#039;,&#039;funny, if long winded, and slightly hypocritical given just how much open source software you use... \r\n\r\nNeoOffice, VLC, Azureus... to name a few... \r\n\r\nOh, and lets not forget what you use to write THIS BLOG... wordpress.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny, if long winded, and slightly hypocritical given just how much open source software you use&#8230; </p>
<p>NeoOffice, VLC, Azureus&#8230; to name a few&#8230; </p>
<p>Oh, and lets not forget what you use to write THIS BLOG&#8230; wordpress.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1601','barry'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1601','barry','funny, if long winded, and slightly hypocritical given just how much open source software you use... \r\n\r\nNeoOffice, VLC, Azureus... to name a few... \r\n\r\nOh, and lets not forget what you use to write THIS BLOG... wordpress.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: kevintel</title>
		<link>http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/2007/07/12/open-source-and-winding-up-tadhg/comment-page-1/#comment-1574</link>
		<dc:creator>kevintel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kraj:
Thanks, and well done! We at andCurve are very proud of you. The medal&#039;s in the post. The analaogy does come across as being a bit down on Open-Source though. I guess I didn&#039;t emphasise the point I was trying to make enough, which is that if you&#039;re just out to use the tool (not just dismantle it) then I think the quality of the product matters more than the ideology behind it. After all, if you applied the same to music and literature, you&#039;d never read or listen to anything. Curious to see people&#039;s views on that one.

@ Garv:
lol. More please. Very topical, since the Vatican recently took that joke as (if you&#039;ll pardon the pun) gospel. Almost literally.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1574&#039;,&#039;kevintel&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1574&#039;,&#039;kevintel&#039;,&#039;@ Kraj:\r\nThanks, and well done! We at andCurve are very proud of you. The medal\&#039;s in the post. The analaogy does come across as being a bit down on Open-Source though. I guess I didn\&#039;t emphasise the point I was trying to make enough, which is that if you\&#039;re just out to use the tool (not just dismantle it) then I think the quality of the product matters more than the ideology behind it. After all, if you applied the same to music and literature, you\&#039;d never read or listen to anything. Curious to see people\&#039;s views on that one.\r\n\r\n@ Garv:\r\nlol. More please. Very topical, since the Vatican recently took that joke as (if you\&#039;ll pardon the pun) gospel. Almost literally.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kraj:<br />
Thanks, and well done! We at andCurve are very proud of you. The medal&#8217;s in the post. The analaogy does come across as being a bit down on Open-Source though. I guess I didn&#8217;t emphasise the point I was trying to make enough, which is that if you&#8217;re just out to use the tool (not just dismantle it) then I think the quality of the product matters more than the ideology behind it. After all, if you applied the same to music and literature, you&#8217;d never read or listen to anything. Curious to see people&#8217;s views on that one.</p>
<p>@ Garv:<br />
lol. More please. Very topical, since the Vatican recently took that joke as (if you&#8217;ll pardon the pun) gospel. Almost literally.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1574','kevintel'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1574','kevintel','@ Kraj:\r\nThanks, and well done! We at andCurve are very proud of you. The medal\'s in the post. The analaogy does come across as being a bit down on Open-Source though. I guess I didn\'t emphasise the point I was trying to make enough, which is that if you\'re just out to use the tool (not just dismantle it) then I think the quality of the product matters more than the ideology behind it. After all, if you applied the same to music and literature, you\'d never read or listen to anything. Curious to see people\'s views on that one.\r\n\r\n@ Garv:\r\nlol. More please. Very topical, since the Vatican recently took that joke as (if you\'ll pardon the pun) gospel. Almost literally.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Garv</title>
		<link>http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/2007/07/12/open-source-and-winding-up-tadhg/comment-page-1/#comment-1557</link>
		<dc:creator>Garv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many protestants does it take to change a lightbulb?

None, they live in eternal darkness.



......I&#039;ll get my coat&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1557&#039;,&#039;Garv&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1557&#039;,&#039;Garv&#039;,&#039;How many protestants does it take to change a lightbulb?\r\n\r\nNone, they live in eternal darkness.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n......I\&#039;ll get my coat&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many protestants does it take to change a lightbulb?</p>
<p>None, they live in eternal darkness.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;ll get my coat
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1557','Garv'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1557','Garv','How many protestants does it take to change a lightbulb?\r\n\r\nNone, they live in eternal darkness.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n......I\'ll get my coat'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kraj</title>
		<link>http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/2007/07/12/open-source-and-winding-up-tadhg/comment-page-1/#comment-1551</link>
		<dc:creator>Kraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great analogy kev, I love it. 

Plus, this is the first message I&#039;ve ever left on your site that isn&#039;t just general abuse.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1551&#039;,&#039;Kraj&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1551&#039;,&#039;Kraj&#039;,&#039;Great analogy kev, I love it. \r\n\r\nPlus, this is the first message I\&#039;ve ever left on your site that isn\&#039;t just general abuse.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great analogy kev, I love it. </p>
<p>Plus, this is the first message I&#8217;ve ever left on your site that isn&#8217;t just general abuse.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1551','Kraj'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1551','Kraj','Great analogy kev, I love it. \r\n\r\nPlus, this is the first message I\'ve ever left on your site that isn\'t just general abuse.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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