Comments on: Cock-blocking beats http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/2006/04/18/cock-blocking-beats/ The weblog of Kevin Teljeur. Somewhere within all the noise, there is a note you need to hear. Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:12:22 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Voting has closed at the IBA http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/2006/04/18/cock-blocking-beats/comment-page-1/#comment-590 Voting has closed at the IBA Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:34:10 +0000 http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/?p=90#comment-590 [...] Ach go hairithe – We love Irish we do, but if we want our signs in English An Cainteoir Dochais – Ag toraiocht na ndilseoiri i mBaile Átha Cliath andcurve – Cock-blocking beats Annie Rhiannon – Three years too late Arse End of Ireland – Where do you get your smoke from? Arse End of Ireland – The Bertles Balrog – McDowell should walk over Rape crisis Bifsniff – Should You Be Laughing At This? Blather.net Snackbox Diaries – Introducing AbuseOS Blogorrah – Rochegate: Why Can’t We All Just Get Along? Bock the Robber – Haughey Conor’s Bandon Blog – You may feel a small prick Cruiskeen Eile – Boys will be Boys Cruiskeen Eile – Phwoarr. How to Report on the Troubles While Getting David McWilliams – The Dundrum Paradox – Don’t be Paddy Last! Dervala.net – The Passion-Industrial Complex Earth and Universe – The day I quit as an Altar Boy. Earth and Universe – The legend of Uncle Tom and the Bubble Car ElBlogador – Bloody Sunday In Pictures ElBlogador – Peter Robinson Empire State View – Barry Egan, Journalist of the Year From Bath to Cork with baby Grace – After traffic in Cork Fustar – David Sque Interview Part 1. Fustar – Chess with balls Graham Ó Maonaigh – Ending Gun crime iQblog – Irish kitchen sink usability Irelands Few – Corruption WithIn Unionism? IrishEyes – Richard Waghorne has a closed mind Letter to America – Drama – Thy Name is Pong Life is a Journal – Self Help and Personal Development for Lazy People Madspoon – Sheep 34 Banana Maman Poulet – 35 going on 13 Minesajackdaniels’ Blog – Pompoms and bottle tops. Old Bitter Balls – Keeling Time Political Quote – Bertie Ahern does a ‘Nixon’ over money scandal Red Cardinal – Golden Spiders – Are These Really Ireland’s Best Websites? Redfly Marketting – DMOZ Submission Guide Ricks Breakfast Blog – A Religious Experience… Ricks Breakfast Blog – Most Extraordinary Day of my Life Skin Flicks – The JC Skinner guide to drinking Stig Online – The most painful 12 miles of my life (and the other 14 were hardly easy) The Adventures of Truculent Horse – Culture Shock III – The Language Barrier The Dossing Times – The Riots and the consequences. The Dossing Times – Riots in Dublin The Great Wee Azoo – Awfully Awfully at Castleward Book Fair The Midnight Court – Paper Round Exclusive! The torture garden – the best songs of 2006 Twenty Major – A thousand words Twenty Major – Countdown to the next election Young Unionists – Ignoring the Big Issues Young Unionists – In defence of the Act of Settlement [...]
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]]> By: kevintel http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/2006/04/18/cock-blocking-beats/comment-page-1/#comment-150 kevintel Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:25:19 +0000 http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/?p=90#comment-150 This is all quite true, in so far as some of it was facetious and not intended to be backed by hard facts because it was very late and I had to get up for my run today but I believe that gender orientation is largely biological, and not learned. Now, this isn't strictly true in all cases, because you're always going to have someone sitting on the fence (so to speak) but, at the same time, there have been various medical tests or procedures - and I think these were violations of basic human rights - which eventually established that gender orientation ran deeper than a learned cultural disposition. If you are into girls or guys, or either, then no amount of electroshock therapy is going to beat it out of you. In fact, they've (allegedly) established the genes responsible for this stuff. What I want to know is, why can't people be comfortable with the idea that some things are the way they are and can't be forcibly changed? That was my point about genitalia. You might get me retrofitted with a clit, but that doesn't make me a woman.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('150','kevintel'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('150','kevintel','This is all quite true, in so far as some of it was facetious and not intended to be backed by hard facts because it was very late and I had to get up for my run today but I believe that gender orientation is largely biological, and not learned. Now, this isn\'t strictly true in all cases, because you\'re always going to have someone sitting on the fence (so to speak) but, at the same time, there have been various medical tests or procedures - and I think these were violations of basic human rights - which eventually established that gender orientation ran deeper than a learned cultural disposition. If you are into girls or guys, or either, then no amount of electroshock therapy is going to beat it out of you. In fact, they\'ve (allegedly) established the genes responsible for this stuff.\r\n\r\nWhat I want to know is, why can\'t people be comfortable with the idea that some things are the way they are and can\'t be forcibly changed?\r\n\r\nThat was my point about genitalia. You might get me retrofitted with a clit, but that doesn\'t make me a woman.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> This is all quite true, in so far as some of it was facetious and not intended to be backed by hard facts because it was very late and I had to get up for my run today but I believe that gender orientation is largely biological, and not learned. Now, this isn’t strictly true in all cases, because you’re always going to have someone sitting on the fence (so to speak) but, at the same time, there have been various medical tests or procedures – and I think these were violations of basic human rights – which eventually established that gender orientation ran deeper than a learned cultural disposition. If you are into girls or guys, or either, then no amount of electroshock therapy is going to beat it out of you. In fact, they’ve (allegedly) established the genes responsible for this stuff.

What I want to know is, why can’t people be comfortable with the idea that some things are the way they are and can’t be forcibly changed?

That was my point about genitalia. You might get me retrofitted with a clit, but that doesn’t make me a woman.

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]]> By: Tadhg http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/2006/04/18/cock-blocking-beats/comment-page-1/#comment-149 Tadhg Wed, 19 Apr 2006 00:01:57 +0000 http://www.andcurve.com/wordpress/?p=90#comment-149 The question "what exactly do you mean by gender?" is the first one that springs to mind. Do you mean "what kind of genitalia?" then yeah, it's mostly biological (although sex-change operations mess with this somewhat). But if you mean something more complex, particularly along the lines of "what kinds of skills/tendencies?", then it starts to go out the window, at least in my opinion. And you seem to be pointing in that direction since you argue that sexual orientation is biological, and (facetiously, but still apparently pointing in that direction) that the offside rule is incomprehensible to women. The skills point seems weak in that it only takes one exception to the rule to kill your argument, right? One woman who understands the offside rule kind of defeats that point... if you claim she's an exception, then what determines that exception-hood, since it's clearly not gender? I'll also note that you don't really make any case for your final point--you just say "these things are from your genes". Which is fine, you can naturally make any points you want and not back them up, but it might be of interest, in this discussion, to know <em>why</em> you think this is true.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('149','Tadhg'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('149','Tadhg','The question \"what exactly do you mean by gender?\" is the first one that springs to mind. Do you mean \"what kind of genitalia?\" then yeah, it\'s mostly biological (although sex-change operations mess with this somewhat). But if you mean something more complex, particularly along the lines of \"what kinds of skills\/tendencies?\", then it starts to go out the window, at least in my opinion. And you seem to be pointing in that direction since you argue that sexual orientation is biological, and (facetiously, but still apparently pointing in that direction) that the offside rule is incomprehensible to women. The skills point seems weak in that it only takes one exception to the rule to kill your argument, right? One woman who understands the offside rule kind of defeats that point... if you claim she\'s an exception, then what determines that exception-hood, since it\'s clearly not gender?\r\n\r\nI\'ll also note that you don\'t really make any case for your final point--you just say \"these things are from your genes\". Which is fine, you can naturally make any points you want and not back them up, but it might be of interest, in this discussion, to know <em>why<\/em> you think this is true.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The question “what exactly do you mean by gender?” is the first one that springs to mind. Do you mean “what kind of genitalia?” then yeah, it’s mostly biological (although sex-change operations mess with this somewhat). But if you mean something more complex, particularly along the lines of “what kinds of skills/tendencies?”, then it starts to go out the window, at least in my opinion. And you seem to be pointing in that direction since you argue that sexual orientation is biological, and (facetiously, but still apparently pointing in that direction) that the offside rule is incomprehensible to women. The skills point seems weak in that it only takes one exception to the rule to kill your argument, right? One woman who understands the offside rule kind of defeats that point… if you claim she’s an exception, then what determines that exception-hood, since it’s clearly not gender?

I’ll also note that you don’t really make any case for your final point–you just say “these things are from your genes”. Which is fine, you can naturally make any points you want and not back them up, but it might be of interest, in this discussion, to know why you think this is true.

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